Kreativität im Pop-Rock-Musik-Schaffen
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SPIEGEL: Während des Corona-Lockdowns haben Sie das tägliche Streamen und Produzieren neuer Musik im Gamer-Netzwerk Twitch für sich entdeckt. Was reizt Sie daran?
Shinoda: Wenn man viel Zeit totschlagen muss, hilft es einem, dem Tag eine Struktur zu geben. Deshalb streame ich täglich um zehn Uhr am Vormittag, drei Stunden lang. Am Zuspruch der Fans merke ich, dass die Sehnsucht nach Gemeinschaft zurzeit ziemlich groß ist. In vielen Sozialen Netzwerken ist die Stimmung ziemlich aggressiv. Musik hingegen erfreut alle.
SPIEGEL: Sie binden Ihre Fans ein, setzen deren Vorschläge um - und haben manche sogar auf Ihren Songs singen lassen. Was versprechen Sie sich von so viel Nähe?
Shinoda: Es gibt keinen Plan, kein Konzept. Ich starte jeden Tag bei Null. Aber nach drei Stunden ist meistens irgendetwas Interessantes passiert. Darum geht es.
SPIEGEL: Kommentieren Sie auch missratene Versuche?
Shinoda: Missraten ist relativ. Manches ist so grotesk, dass es schon wieder lustig ist. Aber alle paar Wochen räume ich schon mal öffentlich ein, wenn etwas total nach hinten losgegangen ist.
SPIEGEL: Sie haben für dieses Experiment das Netzwerk Twitch ausgesucht, das bislang überwiegend von Gamern genutzt wurde und nun zunehmend in den Fokus der Musikwelt rückt. Wie sind Sie auf Twitch gekommen?
Shinoda: Ich bin seit Ewigkeiten Gamer. Allerdings nicht so extrem wie so manche anderen, die rund um die Uhr zu spielen scheinen. Ich spiele zwar gerne, aber es ist mir nie wirklich Ernst. Dennoch bin ich schon länger mit Twitch als Livestreaming-Plattform für Gamer vertraut. Während des Lockdowns realisierte ich, dass einige Musiker begannen, Twitch zu nutzen: DJs streamen dort ihre Sets, Rapper und Bands führen Musik auf - eine kleine Music-Community unter all den Gamern. Ich beschloss, dass ich diese Plattform auch so nutzen wollte, aber doch anders. Ich wollte spielen - und zwar mit der Produktion von Songs.
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“The thing about the Heartbreakers is, it’s still holy to me,” he said with no air of loftiness or pretense. “There’s a holiness there. If that were to go away, I don’t think I would be interested in it, and I don’t think they would. We’re a real rock ’n’ roll band — always have been. And to us, in the era we came up in, it was a religion in a way. It was more than commerce, it wasn’t about that. It was about something much greater.
“It was about moving people, and changing the world, and I really believed in rock ’n’ roll — I still do,” he said. “I believed in it in its purest sense, its purest form. … It’s unique to have a band that knows each other that long and that well.
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Still, he confessed, “It’s hard for me ... If I don’t have a project going, I don’t feel like I’m connected to anything. I don’t even think it’s that healthy for me. I like to get out of bed and have a purpose.”
Petty always had a purpose, and a man like that, a man with a purpose, should have had more time — weeks, months, years— to practice what he called fishing and others call songwriting.
“It’s kind of a lonely work,” he said, “because you just have to keep your pole in the water. I always had a little routine of going into whatever room I was using at the time to write in, and just staying in there till I felt like I got a bite.
“I compare it to fishing: There’s either a fish in the boat or there’s not,” he said with a laugh. “Sometimes you come home and you didn’t catch anything and sometimes you caught a huge fish. But that was the work part of it to me. … I just remember being excited when I had a song done, and I knew I had a song in my pocket, I always felt really excited about it.”
I always had a little routine of going into whatever room I was using at the time to write in, and just staying in there till I felt like I got a bite.
Tom Petty
I was one of many blindsided by the news of his death on Monday. As we sat, just a few days earlier, he was vibrant, full of enthusiasm, still the epitome of the coolest rock star you’d want to sit down for a chat with. He laughed easily and often, occasionally dropping his voice into a softer mode when outlining just how precious his band, his music and his family were to him. The only gripe he had was about the hip he cracked shortly before the tour started, which he was now finally addressing.
This is not the Tom Petty story I intended to write because I intended to write a “next stage” story.
Everyone assumed — fully expected — there would be more time for this fisherman to add yet more brethren to the bevy of beloved songs that have integrated themselves into American popular culture. Classic-rock staples including “Breakdown,” “American Girl,” “Refugee,” “Even the Losers,” “Learning to Fly,” “Listen to Her Heart,” “Here Comes My Girl,” “Walls,” “Mary Jane’s Last Dance.”
“To go into a studio and hear a band play [one of his new songs] for the first time is always exciting,” Petty said. “And usually when they play it, it became something I hadn’t even pictured. Yes, I love the studio. I love the studio as much as I love playing live, easily. I’m pretty much in one every day, and I’m still at that.”
Tom Petty's final interview: There was supposed to have been so much more - Los Angeles Times
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